https://www.theverge.com/podcast/967884/jill-lepore-history-ai-artificial-state-elon-musk
Dr. Jill Lepore on AI backlash and the ‘Artificial State’ | The Verge
Jul 20, 2026 - Harvard law and history professor and New Yorker writer Dr. Jill Lepore discusses her forthcoming book, ‘The Rise and Fall of the Artificial State’
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