https://pocketcasts.com/podcast/escalation/70fd8990-8a0d-0137-f541-17da1cd0d495/bonus-conversation-with-mary-sarotte/06ca52a5-77ee-4df2-939a-f159de2150c5
In this bonus episode of Escalation, we're bringing you an extended cut of our conversation with Mary Sarotte, a NATO Historian and International Relations...
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https://azpbs.org/keepingitcivil/2025/10/post-post-cold-war/
Oct 25, 2025 - In this episode Henry and Mary talk about the Russia-Ukraine War and America’s role in a new post-post-cold war global order.
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