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Using input to Form 1099-R state taxable amount does https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/i-do-not-contribute-to-my-companies-401k-plan-and-wondering-if-i-can-deduct-my-traditional-ira-on-my/00/2391776 I do not contribute to my companies 401k plan and wondering if I can deduct my traditional IRA on... Jan 4, 2022 - I do not contribute to my companies 401k plan and wondering if I can deduct my traditional IRA on my return? Am i still "covered" if I dont elect to https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/when-and-how-much-i-should-convert-traditional-ira-401k-to-roth-ira-with-minimum-tax-impact/00/2745625 When and how much I should convert traditional IRA/401K to Roth IRA with minimum tax impact? 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I am sep iratransfertraditional https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/reporting-a-partial-recharachterization-of-my-2024-ira-contribution-from-traditional-to-roth/00/3517889 Solved: Reporting a partial recharachterization of my 2024 IRA contribution from traditional to Roth Feb 26, 2025 - Solved: I contributed $8000 to my traditional IRA for 2024 (7K + catch-up), then realized my AGI was too high to deduct all of it. So I recharachterized $5000 https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/can-i-add-to-both-a-sep-and-traditional-ira-and-get-full-deduction-for-both/00/2744474 Can I add to both a SEP and traditional IRA and get full deduction for both? Mar 9, 2026 - I am self employed over 79 years old. I do consulting and have some income. Can I contribute to both plans and what are the tax deductions limits? Where do I https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/what-is-total-basis-in-my-traditional-ira/00/17729 Solved: What is Total Basis in my Traditional IRA Mar 7, 2025 - Solved: I have multiple IRA accounts, Traditional, Rollovers, Roths (with conversions), 401ks, etc. over many years. One of my rollovers was from a 401k that what issolvedtotalbasistraditional https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/traditional-and-roth-ira-contributions-if-enter-contrib-after-jan-2026-does-no-show-on-main-screen/00/3735563 Traditional and Roth IRA Contributions if enter contrib after jan 2026 does no show on main screen... Jan 27, 2026 - First time doing a Backdoor Roth and stuck in TurboTax Online. I'm trying to report a 2025 Trad IRA contribution made in early 2026. TurboTax keeps saying it's https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-roth-ira-back-door-contribution-while-having-more-than-one-traditional-ira-account/01/3685351/highlight/true Re: Roth IRA back door contribution while having more than one traditional IRA account May 22, 2025 - Sorry, I am in the process of converting M dollars. I rolled over a roll over IRA to a traditional IRA and am waiting for the funds to clear. So since I https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/converting-a-traditional-ira-to-roth-ira-backdoor-roth-is-causing-a-tax-liability-how-do-i-correct/00/498438 Solved: Converting a traditional ira to roth ira (backdoor roth) is causing a tax liability. How do... Mar 31, 2021 - Solved: Converting a traditional ira to roth ira (backdoor roth) is causing a tax liability. How do I correct this? https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/i-stated-on-2018-tax-return-that-i-will-open-a-traditional-ira-to-avail-of-tax-break-opened-account/00/763455 I stated on 2018 tax return that I will open a traditional IRA to avail of tax break. Opened... Jun 7, 2019 - I stated on 2018 tax return that I will open a traditional IRA to avail of tax break. Opened account on April 15,2019 but bank did not file until the 16th. Do https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/does-the-question-tell-us-the-value-of-your-traditional-sep-and-simple-iras-include-ira-annuities/00/338734 Solved: Does the Question "tell us the value of your traditional, SEP, and Simple IRAs" include IRA... Jun 3, 2019 - Solved: Does the Question "tell us the value of your traditional, SEP, and Simple IRAs" include IRA annuities? https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/where-do-i-submit-2025-s-post-tax-traditional-ira-contributions-form-8606-when-i-am-filing-in-2026/00/3750134 Solved: Where do I submit 2025's post tax traditional IRA contributions (Form 8606) when I am... Feb 1, 2026 - Solved: I created a Traditional IRA in 2025. I do not have a way to contribute pretax money to the traditional IRA so all the money is post tax money. I am https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/how-can-i-report-traditional-ira-in-turbotax-if-i-recharacterize-my-roth-ira-contribution-to-be-a/00/3889107 How can I report Traditional IRA in TurboTax if I recharacterize my Roth IRA contribution to be a... 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How https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/does-traditional-ira-include-rollover-ira-s-from-a-business-401k-when-completing-ira-worksheet-does/00/2397979 Solved: Does "traditional IRA" include rollover IRA's (from a business 401k) when completing IRA... Jan 12, 2022 - Solved: I did a conversion of a portion of an existing Rollover IRA (rolled over from business 401K years ago) to an existing Roth IRA in December 2021. What https://www.irs.gov/ru/help/ita/is-the-distribution-from-my-traditional-sep-or-simple-ira-taxable Is the distribution from my traditional, SEP or SIMPLE IRA taxable? | Internal Revenue Service Determine if your distribution from a traditional, SEP or SIMPLE IRA is taxable. https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/why-wont-turbo-tax-determine-my-basis-for-a-traditional-ira-rmd-and-fill-out-form-8606/00/3174641 Solved: Why wont Turbo Tax determine my Basis for a traditional IRA RMD and fill out form 8606? Feb 10, 2026 - Solved: Will not complete form 8606 and place the appropiate amounts on lines 4a, 4b and 5 on form 1040 https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/i-funded-a-roth-ira-in-2016-to-5500-amp-recharacterized-4400-to-a-traditional-ira-today-to-stay/00/619789 I funded a ROTH IRA in 2016 to $5500 & recharacterized $4400 to a traditional IRA today to stay... https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/excess-ira-contribution-in-2022-did-not-take-traditional-ira-deduction/00/3385164 Solved: Excess IRA Contribution in 2022, did not take Traditional IRA deduction Feb 11, 2026 - Solved: While working on Tax Year 2023, my wife recharacterized her Roth IRA. Since Turbo Tax asks about any previous years contributions, I asked my wife to ira contributiondid notsolvedexcess https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/when-it-asks-if-i-contributed-to-a-traditional-ira-does-that-mean-when-its-deducted-from-my-paycheck/00/3441276 When it asks if i contributed to a traditional IRA , does that mean when its deducted from my... Jan 27, 2026 - When it asks if i contributed to a traditional IRA , does that mean when its deducted from my paycheck? https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/closed-a-roth-ira-in-12-31-2018-and-deposited-into-a-traditional-ira-in-3-25-2019-by-mistake-is-the/00/758654 Solved: Closed a Roth IRA in 12/31/2018 and deposited into a Traditional IRA in 3/25/2019 by... Jun 7, 2019 - Solved: Closed a Roth IRA in 12/31/2018 and deposited into a Traditional IRA in 3/25/2019 by mistake. Is the deadline for return of contribution 10/15/2019. https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/is-it-possible-to-contribute-to-traditional-ira-to-reduce-his-gross-income-to-qualify-to-be-a/00/3904557 Is it possible to contribute to Traditional IRA to reduce his GROSS income to qualify to be a... Apr 26, 2026 - Our 26 yr old son's W2 for 2025 showed $7,000 in Box 1 "wages, tips..." (no 401k offered). He ALREADY filed his 2025 taxes in which he reported the https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/are-there-penalties-for-contributing-and-withdrawing-to-a-traditional-ira-in-the-same-year/00/3380747 Are there penalties for contributing and withdrawing to a traditional IRA in the same year? Feb 11, 2026 - Earlier this year I contributed the maximum $8000 to a Traditional IRA for this tax year. This was intended as a non-deductible IRA contribution. I have had https://www.fool.com/retirement/plans/ira/income-limits/ Traditional IRA Income Limits in 2025 and 2026: Can You Contribute? | The Motley Fool Feb 4, 2026 - Learn how IRA income limits vary based on which type of IRA you have. Find out if you can contribute and if you make too much money for a tax deduction. https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/my-traditional-ira-distribution-is-a-rollover-to-a-roth-ira-i-think-it-should-be-on-line-8-of-form/00/627940 Solved: My traditional ira distribution is a rollover to a roth ira. I think it should be on line 8... Jun 6, 2019 - Solved: My traditional ira distribution is a rollover to a roth ira. I think it should be on line 8 of form 8606 not line 7. How do i get it there?