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Cheers & Tiers: Design Leadership Tales Retold | 025: Debbie Millman & Michael Bierut of AIGA New...
Before they were design royalty, Debbie Millman and Michael Bierut both remember what it felt like to be on the outside. Debbie got kicked out of an AIGA...
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Debbie Millman
Debbie Millman is a writer, designer, educator, artist, brand consultant and host of the podcast Design Matters.
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